Frequently asked questions
- How was it discovered that Michel Saindon was born on December 2nd 1715?
- Michel Saindon, royal notary
- The Saindon island
- Pierre Saindon was a "laboureur" (plowman). What does it means?
- "La Lignée Saindon", newsletter
- The genealogical dictionaries
- The consultation of the genealogical data of the site
- How to begin genealogy research
- How to contribute genealogical data to the Saindon's tree.
How was it discovered that Michel Saindon was born on December 2nd 1715?
- Laurent Saindon, pioneer researchers on Saindons' history and genealogy, despite 15 years of researchs, found no document indicating the origin and date of birth of Michel Saindon. He believed that he must have come from Brittany. Michel's burial certificate indicates that he died at around the age of 62 years, so born around 1718.
- Around 1985, father Robert Saindon, a friend of Laurent, went to Brittany and found that the Saindons came from Ille et Vilaine Department. Research at the "Departemental archives" led him to believe that Michel was born in Brain-sur-la-Vilaine in 1717 but he did not find a birth certificate.
- Around 1995, André Sindon asks for help on a genealogy blog of the Internet. An amateur French Genealogist after several months of unsuccessful researchs recommended to do a survey of the Saindon living in France. A family of Saindons from Bains-sur-Oust, Brittany found the certificate of birth of a Michel Saindon born on December 2nd 1715.
- André Sindon and Louise Camirand, his wife, travelled to France and pursued research in the archives of Ille et Vilaine, confirmed the authenticity of the Act, and did not find any other acts relating to a Michel Saindon compatible with the expected date of birth of our ancestor.
- Years later, Robert A. Saindon from Montana with the help of a French genealogist, found the same document independently of André Sindon.
- Is it the certificate of birth of the ancestor of the Saindons?
In the Fall of 2016, a DNA comparison between a descendant of Michel in America and a descendant of Pierre, brother of Michel, in France showed a similarity that proved that Michel Saindon baptised at Bains-sur-Oust in 1715 is the same person that emigrated to Acadia around 1736.
Michel Saindon, royal notary
Under the French regime, there was two types of notaries: the seigneurial and the Royal.
The royal notary had his appointment from the King or his representative. He had the right to act throughout the territory of the Government from which he received his commission. Michel's commission was from Kamouraska to Rimouski.
The seigneurial notary, appointed by a Lord, could not write acts outside the territory of the lordship.
The Saindon island
- Hartts Island located in the Rivière-St-Jean a little west of Fredericton, New-Brunswick belonged to Michel Saindon.
- The island was near Pointe Ste-Anne where Michel and his family lived for more than 25 years.
Pierre Saindon was a "laboureur" (plowman). What does it means?
The father of Michel, Pierre Saindon, was a "laboureur" (plowman). What was a "laboureur"?
Today, a "laboureur" is a person who ploughs the earth without special status.
Up to the 19th century, a "laboureur" was a farmer who owned the land that he was cultivating and had, at least, one horse or pair of oxen and a plough. They had become rich and thus managed to partially escape the system of feudalism. They were considered as rural notables.
The poorer farmers were "ménagers", possessing only a small lot of land and of course no horse but just a donkey or a mule.
The poorest of the rural labour were those who did not own a lot and rented their services (hand and arms) from day to day. They therefore were referred to as "Journaliers", (workers).
"La Lignée Saindon", newsletter
The newsletter began publication one year after the beginning of the Association in 1995. The first editor was Claude Saindon, 2nd president of the Association, followed by André Saindon, 3rd president.
Currently it is produced by an editorial board composed of Martine Saindon, Andrée Thinel, Louise Camirand, Réal Saindon and André Sindon, coordinator and editor of the newsletter.
The genealogical dictionaries
Two dictionaries have been published, one in French in 2011 and a revised edition in English in 2017.
- the latest data on the history of the Saindon
- the family tree of the descendants of Michel Saindon and Marie-Yves Godin and
- many photographs, biographical and historical notes.
It can be bought by clicking the following link.
The consultation of the genealogical data of the site
The Association maintains a genealogical databank of the descendants of Michel Saindon and Marie-Yves Godin and the descendants fo his brother and sisters in Brittany online. There is more than 18,000 descendants.
This databank is available to the members only site as well as those who, although they are not members, contribute new informations.
How to begin genealogy research
The genealogical data of our ancestors who died more than 100 years ago are readily available at the National Archives or by Internet.
At the Québec province National Archives you have the advantage of assistance by advisors.
By Internet, you should subscribe to the "Fonds Drouin" or Ancestry.ca. In these two locations, you will have access to the original acts of baptism, marriage and burial sorted by parish. Several surveys and other useful documents in genealogy are also available. Ancestry.ca offers a free 2-week trial. It's worth it.
Acts of the people who died less than 100 years ago, can be found on the BMS of the genealogical society by becoming a member or by subscribing via the Internet. It is a compilation of baptisms, marriages and burials. There is no direct access to the acts.
There is also the Mormon database that can be consulted free of charge via the Internet.
For older data, there is the Tanguay dictionary and the PRDH (Research Program in Historical Demography) of the Université de Montréal for the people who lived from 1621 to 1799. It is necessary to subscribe.
In any event, it is always better to consult the records directly.
How to get started?
Find dates and location (parish) of marriage of ascendants of the paternal line. Start with your parents and your grandparents.
Each acts usually indicates where spouses come from. This will allow you to find the first settlers in New France.
Do the same for your maternal line. It is more difficult because the wives take their husband's name.
How to contribute genealogical data to the Saindon's tree.
See the genealogy tab on the menu and fill in the form. You will receive an acknowledgement by e-mail.
Your data will be added to the database of the Association which is regularly updated and available for consultation on the Internet to Association's members and non-members contributing.